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Quick Volvo S60 and GS350 comparison

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I rented an AWD Volvo S60 with the T5 motor for 10 days and drove it about 1,000 miles in Washington state last week. Thought I would give a few words of it versus my '18 GS350 fsport AWD.

First, I know the Volvo is not as expensive or premium as the GS, but they are comparable somewhat. I won't talk specs, just driving feel.. I haven't even compared any of the specs so the influence of knowing torque, hp, wheelbase, etc won't be a factor.

Second, I wasn't driving the Volvo "like I stole it" to test any limits. Nor do drive my GS like this. But there were some situations that I pushed it harder than an average person might.

The Volvo drove pretty well! I took it around Seattle, up in the mountains in Leavenworth, and the BIG mountain of Mt. Rainier National Park several times. The steering on the Volvo felt very intuitive and basically read my mind. I didn't have to over correct the steering and it did everything I asked with low effort in parking lots and a tighter feel while moving. The GS f-sport feels quite a bit different. First, the very low speed power assist is very powerful on the GS, making it extremely easy to turn, and the ratio was faster to make it a little easier to get into parking spaces and around tight corner. At driving speeds the S60's steering again felt very good. It didn't follow road grooves and provided enough feedback to get the job done on some extremely twisty roads. I didn't go quick enough to worry about under or oversteer so I can't really say how it performed at tire-squeeling speeds.

The T5 motor was not bad. The noise was low. Vibration tamed. It felt pretty lively and much more eager to rev and get you going than the GS does. There was no power or eco mode button, so there was no other settings to experiment with. The acceleration seemed to match the throttle angle well. The transmission downshifted at points that felt right, and I did not do so unnecessarily, even climbing mountains. My GS feels sluggish in non-fsport mode until higher RPM's and often needs a lot of throttle to accelerate quickly until those RPM's are reached, and for the lowest gear to be selected. F sport mode lets it rev quicker and gives the drive by wire system a quicker response feel. The T5 seemed to have better low torque and again, more eager to go.

On the downhill sections I was using manual shift mode almost all the time to let the car hold itself back without using brakes at every turn. The Volvo gave no complaints doing this except a little whine at higher RPMs. I'm sure it saved the brakes from getting super hot. But I did complain about no paddle shifters on the S60. It would have made the gear changes a lot quicker, easier and "fun".

On higher speed roads, I don't think it would out perform the GS as the power signs off earlier and just didn't feel like it had quite the power that the GS does.
So around town the Volvo felt quicker as it responded better (compared to GS Eco mode) but when you needed to get on the highway or pass someone I felt the GS would blow past the Volvo.

While I didn't have the GS out there to compare on same roads, and my roads here in Ohio are boring in comparison, I felt that the GS held the road more confidently around corners and would complain less about climbing and descending mountains. It would have been fun to have the GS out there.

Brakes are just fine on both. I don't really have any complaints about either cars brakes. The S60 felt ever so softer, ie more lever travel, but just as powerful. Since I didn't do any high speed, drive it like you stole it stops, I can't really say how it felt at the limit. Just that the feel was nice...more premium that most. Overall though, the GS brakes just modulate a little better and had a pedal feel that felt more in tune with my brain.

Where the Volvo started to disappoint was the interior. Specifically, the seats felt tighter and digged into the back of my thighs. I am not a giant, but 6'2" 220lbs not tiny either. My wife also noticed this and isn't a big girl at all. The GS f sport seats are WAY, WAY more comfy and offer a lot more adjustment. The lack of the extra thigh support was noticeable after now having it on the GS. Also I just like the pedal placement on the GS better for whatever reason.

The AC system worked great, but I didn't like the controls. The fan speed button was in a weird place and too small. The GPS seemed to agree with our phones on navigation, but the screen is a lot smaller on the S60 and they both provide a lot of distracting information about the coming exits. The GS is a lot easier to set destinations, which frankly isn't saying much. Touch screens would be so much easier. I also noticed that the S60 GPS wouldn't ask you to make a u-turn, but instead take you out of your way too far if you missed a turn.
The leather on the S60 felt nice but wasn't quite as soft as the GS and didn't quite cradle you in comfort like the GS. Better than most but not as nice as the Lexus.

Styling wise I like how the GS looks over the Volvo. Not that would be ashamed to drive the S60--it looks good but just isn't my taste.

Then all the little things started adding up. No cooled seats. A little dated interior. Headlights were not as good as my triple beams or most HID's. Controls a little odd compared to what I'm used to (which is Toyota, Lexus, Subaru and Mazda). Nav and radio were not easy to operate. Tiny console and map pockets. Trunk a bit smaller and shorter. Many little things simply not present. Annoying engine stop feature to save fuel with a slight surge when it restarted. Confusing steering wheel controls coming from a jap car guy. And more noise/vibration/harshness. If you are used to a beater it would feel smooth as glass but compared to my '18 GS f sport with 2,000 miles on it--not so much.

When you make this kind of comparison you can see why the GS costs so much. The Volvo was pretty nice and would make most drivers pretty happy but the GS just feels like a class or perhaps 2 up.

Tein flex avs

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Hi guys, did some search on the forum regarding TEIN Flex Coilvers with AVS and found the last post was from 2016.

Have you guys seen this new product by TEIN and if anyone of you have had experience with this product? Supposedly we are able to retain the F-Sport AVS function with this coilovers.

Wanted to see if anyone has experience with TEIN before and if Swift Springs can be swapped on to TEIN coilovers.

http://www.tein.com/products/flex_avs.html#spec00

Gurgling Noise

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So i've seen threads on this in the past, but there seems to be multiple reasons why other RX 300s sounds like their gurgling anyways...

My RX 300 has had a small gurgling noise (almost sounds like bubbles), coming from the center/right part of the rear part of the dashboard. Any clue as to what is causing it? I'm assuming it's air bubbles in the cooling system.

I should also add that the gurgling varies in frequency so no it does not sound like a ticking timer like others have expereinced.

Question for RC owners

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Does the sun visor on RC350 have extension? I have 3rd gen IS350 but mine is fixed I was thinking of swapping sun visors if I can find something from junkyard or eBay. Commuting with sun on my side of the face is bothering not sure why Lexus made sun visors in the car so small and not extendable. I remember 2nd gen IS had it.

Is unleaded premium a must on sc 430?

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I am using shell 89 gasoline in my sc430 2005. Should I use 91?

Engine light appears before ignition

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(Before engine ignition)
When i start my car, i see check engine light, lower engine fuel light, red battery warning, lower washer fluid light.
But when i move the key further to ignite engine, all of them are disappeared. I mean when the car runs, no more warning light is appeared. Is it a problem?

A/C curiosity question.

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Ls 460, or for that matter any vehicle with automatic climate control, when the temperature setting is higher, warmer, does the compressor run less?

2010-2012 Navigation console swap

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I wasn't able to find any info when I searched the forums... What I was thinking about doing is swapping the navigation console area of my 06 IS 350 with the parts from a 2010-2012. The trim around the screen looks a little bit better on these, as does the actual user interface on the system. Has anyone done this before? Are there any issues with this?

Whats up new fam!

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Good evening! New to Club Lexus here!
I have a white 2016 Lexus IS200T lowered on Megan Racing lowering springs with tinted taillights and exhaust tips. On the inside its a party with led lights.
I have so many ideas on things I want to do to her! But I would like to get some other opinions too!
What do you guys think I should do? Performance mods? exterior? interior?
I'm more of a cosmetic person rather than performance. I am thinking of adding more blue lights to the dash board, maybe front lip, paint engine cover parts, and more.
Follow me for updates on the build! And drop pics of your build!


Replacing sunroof glass only 1991 LS400 - how too

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Hope this is the right place to post this but I had to replace the glass on my sunroof today after the old one had some hail damage. I couldn't find anything on just doing the glass so I made a quick video in case anyone else ever ran into the problem. After I changed out the glass I cycled the sunroof and everything ran fine and I poured water over it and had no leaks. Very simple job, took me less than half an hour start to finish and that is having no clue where to start. Now that I know it would probably take less than 10 min. The glass company that replaced my windshield quoted me $100-120 to do the glass after I got it in. I figured I'd give it a shot before I called them. Again hope this helps others and if this is in the wrong area please let me know and I can delete and move to a more appropriate area. Thanks everyone.

NJ RCF JoeZ full catback/ Apexi Accel Control/ Swift Springs/ Spacers B2

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I recently turned in my leased RC-F and have my used JoeZ Exhaust sitting in the garage. I still need to clean it up and then will take some pictures. Looking for $1300 obo. Prefer local pickup close to central/north NJ but can ship (previously shippped an exhaust for the RC350 I had before).

I also have the few other smaller parts I took off the RCF as well. I would prefer not to ship the spacers or springs and am open to a package deal.

Apexi Throttle Controller and Harness (410-A001 & 417-A021) - $140 obo

Swift Springs (4T914R) - $150 obo

B2 auto design spacers (B2Designs 15mm & 20mm (4 spacers) Package (5114601.v2.1) - $150 obo.

I can get pictures of everything by this weekend.

Leather Seat Dye

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Does anyone know where, I can find leather seat dye for leather seats been looking online can't come a across that color. inside color is light gray.

Are there any DMV ISF owners or groups?

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I've had my ISF for a few years now and I'd like to meet up with some local owners if possible. Washington. D.C., Maryland or Virginia area.

Dball2 remote start stopped working

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Any advice here? My "remote 3 push to start" isn't working. I'd rather not have to take apart the dash to get at it and run diagnostics, if there's a simpler fix.

CA WTB: 92 auto sc300 ECU

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Message me if you have one with price shipped to 93313

Thanks!

Battery died..replaced..but now car wont start....

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Dear members.

i have a 2006 is250. Battery died. So i replaced it.. but now it wont start. Gets power and when you press the button nothing happens. Also i tried using the fob to start it by putting it by th button. Didn't work. Replaced fob batteries. Weird part is fov doesnt unlock the doors now or lock.

was working fine before.

any ideas?
Also before anyone suggests a starter... if it was a starter. Why wouldn't the fobs work now? Is there a fuse for the fobs?? Thanks

Any rearview camera upgrades with IR and guidelines?

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Are there any aftermarket rearview camera upgrades with higher resolution, IR and guidelines

‘18 F Sport...Just lowered on RS-R Down

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Outside shop. “Sloped” entry


Decided to take a pic while on lift


Garage


Rear: zero gap?


Front


Hello. As per RS-R website:

Front - 1.0 - 1.2 in
Rear - 1.4 - 1.6 in

The rear seems to me has zero gap and front maybe needs more time to settle. It was a 25 mile ride from my indy shop and the ride seems stock to me but might change once I have passengers.

I paid $279 shipped from Ebay an seller and $250 to install at my local indy shop here in San Diego, Ca.

My questions..

-how long should I wait to get wheels aligned?
-has anyone exprienced scraping using this set up with stock wheels/shocks?

Idle Problems? Check your PCV hose for a crack!

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Reading lots of rough idle and no start threads. This is a must on these 20 year old LS400. Remove the PCV valve hose and inspect it for a crack on the back where it connect to the throttle body. Even a "small" crack or brittle looking hose should be replaced immediately or risk be stranded. Found mine a couple days ago with months of perplexing. Photo thanks to Yamae

both front door locks are not working

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both front door locks stopped working today, willn not lock with the button on the inside or outside of the door and will not work with the fob. any thoughts? could it be anything other than the acuators, seems weird for both to fail at the same time
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